2021-02-24 Hypha <> Open Collective

When? Wed Feb 24 @ 1-1:30 pm ET
Who’s here? pia, patcon

Summary

• Pia is dialing back existing obligations (OC Foundation & Opensource Collective) and looking for new opportunities: potentially host orgs in UK and Canada
• OC USA offering admin/finance support through their infrastructure, and cover startup costs.
• proposal: Hypha collab with OC USA as revenue-sharing co-owner (PT contract to start) of new Canada-wide entity, OC Canada
  • potentially involves: feasability research, advising board selection, creating bank accounts, incorporation, legal research, point of contact for collectives
• Open questions:
  • is Hypha interested?
  • do others wish to meet Pia?
  • pc: will startup costs be loan or something else?

Notes

• updates from each side
• Hypha
  • explaining hypha origins and realms of action we’re interested in. community origins. support of community projects. not just co-op.
• Open Collective
  • many inquiries about hosting Canadian projects
    • #todo:kayla+patcon tracking candidate collectives https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BECjLL11BzxQJ9jGMS0QDdGIFoos628DXDLnnrPlf5U/edit#gid=0
  • no CAD contacts yet for hosting, except Hypha
  • generally prefer to partner. lately thinking on starting own and building
  • OC don’t want to grow too quick
  • pia stepping aside of Open Source Collective. High OCF involvement, but stepping away a bit on that too (not as much as OSC). looking for next moves.
    • UK: starting Open Collective Labs. serve UK fiscal host market! white-labeling OC for existing host orgs. have grant to do that work
  • peers like alanna spun up two hosts in NZ
  • pia: Canada seems like good first step for focus. want to make sure there’s enough interest.
    • feels like not a huge investment to build structure
  • e.g. Open Collective Canada, potentially Hypha as member/cofounder. initial funding to pay for accounting/legal and org setup. support team from OC USA. can offer similar supports as to other hosts OC manages. finances and expenses.
    • Hypha would open bank account. manage board. part owner. OC USA would deal with admin manage of host itself.
    • not fulltime to start
  • pc: to clarify, Hypha members would have no hard feelings if OC Canada started without us. pia: +1 to collab. would prefer to work together.
  • pia: contract could be with patcon or hypha. pc: prefer hypha if all the same to OC.
  • “OC Canada would need a partner to grow, not just ON but all Canada.” “Part-owner”
    • OC take on admin/finance
    • Hypha = local banking and legal/corp research/setup. “share costs of these”
      • pc: hypha is low cost for accounting and legal rn. Lower capacity to fund legal and complex accounting. pia: that’s workable
      • pia: OC was all pro bono at first too, but now legal on retainer
  • rough proposal: OC contract hypha to set up structure
    • feasability study of sorts. non-profit fiscal host. non-profit vs charity.
    • research/prepare non-profit Canada-wide. shared platform model.
    • setting up bank account
    • pc: advising on board formation from our network. pia: sure. (3 ppl to start?)
  • pia: timeline = eager to start whenever, but 2mo from now is ok. for time being, won’t be movement without us.
• options
  1. call with other hypha members and Pia
  2. patcon relays proposal
• questions
  • is hypha interested?
  • est how much money to set up?
• scope recap:
  • helping to structure
  • taking some ownership of responsibilities
  • shared revenue

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